Tren Griffin – Giving to Get

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Bill Brewster

Bill Brewster is a private investor. He cohosts the podcast Value: After Hours with Tobias Carlisle and Jake Taylor. Tobias, Jake and Bill met at a Berkshire Hathaway meeting and formed a lasting friendship. And, as it turns out, people really like the podcast.

While Bill tries to replicate Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger’s thought processes, he is heavily influenced by Bill Miller III, Stan Druckenmiller, and others. This podcast is his attempt to dig deeper into other investing/business philosophies and share the knowledge with the world.

Tren Griffin stops by The Business Brew for a fun conversation about his career, investing, and life. Tren is an author of 7 books, had a front row seat to Bill Gates’ career, sold ½ of his business in the .com bubble, deeply studied Charlie Munger, and now works at Microsoft. This conversation spans Tren’s career, his advice regarding giving to get, the importance of being brave, and much more.

Tren, thank you for joining The Brew. It was a pleasure speaking with you. We hope you enjoy the discussion. You can find Tren on Twitter @trengriffin and read his work at

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  • ~6:20 – Scaling luck
  • ~9:15 – Age creating humility
  • ~11:30 – Coming up with a startup idea when the internet was nascent
  • ~15:21 – Interesting Seattle connections lead to starting a satellite company
  • ~18:00 – Giving to get
  • ~26:00 – Nonlinear outcomes
  • ~28:00 – The uniqueness of “you”
  • ~30:00 – The power of herding and finding the tailwinds in life
  • ~34:00 – Having different mentors for different things in life
  • ~41:00 – The power of stories
  • ~48:00 – The power of getting curious and finding interesting people
  • ~52:00 – Whether Tren has any regrets from his startup
  • ~1:00:00 – Taking care of yourself to avoid breaking. But also, enjoy every sandwich.
  • ~1:02:30 – Feedback and making your community better
  • ~1:06:30 – The importance of bravery
  • ~1:09:00 – Teach your kids to be independent
  • ~1:12:00 – Being brave but humble
  • ~1:17:00 – Owning stocks/businesses that inspire you
  • ~1:20:00 – The difference between people you work with
  • ~1:25:00 – Culture

Disclaimer: Bill manages a portfolio under the name of Sullimar Capital Group. This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. Nothing in this podcast or on SullimarCapital.Group is investment advice. All information in this is opinion based, potentially biased, and requires verification.

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